Terrorist Acts by Britons Abroad

Proposer
PaulJRobinson
State

Accepted

Vote Score

2

Age

2169 days


@PaulJRobinson edited manifesto/crime.md - almost 6 years ago

We are opposed to the death penalty for all crimes, and would vote against any attempt to reintroduce it.

Removal of British Citizenship for Terrorist Acts Abroad

We are opposed to the removal of British citizenship as a sentence for committing terrorist offences abroad, which may leave individuals stateless. We also reject the suggestion of denying entry into the UK for British citizens suspected of commmtting terrorist offences abroad without having undergone due criminal proceedings. Where reasonable suspicion of such a criminal act occurs it should be investigated for possible prosecution within the criminal justice system.

Right to Die

Ensure euthanasia is permissible and available for those with conditions causing the individual such pain that they wish to end their own life but cannot do so without assistance. Medical staff and loved ones aiding anyone under such circumstances should not be prosecuted providing clear (and independently witnessed) consent has been given.

PaulJRobinson

@PaulJRobinson - almost 6 years ago

Proposal for dealing with suspected terrorist acts committed by British Citizens abroad.

Floppy

@Floppy - almost 6 years ago

typo in commmtting, but otherwise 👍. UDHR says everyone has the right to a state, so leaving people stateless is a bad thing.

PaulJRobinson

@PaulJRobinson - almost 6 years ago

doh! stupid fat fingers and lack of spelling skills.

@PaulJRobinson edited manifesto/crime.md - almost 6 years ago

We are opposed to the death penalty for all crimes, and would vote against any attempt to reintroduce it.

Removal of British Citizenship for Terrorist Acts Abroad

We are opposed to the removal of British citizenship as a sentence for committing terrorist offences abroad, which may leave individuals stateless. We also reject the suggestion of denying entry into the UK for British citizens suspected of committing terrorist offences abroad without having undergone due criminal proceedings. Where reasonable suspicion of such a criminal act occurs it should be investigated for possible prosecution within the criminal justice system.

Right to Die

Ensure euthanasia is permissible and available for those with conditions causing the individual such pain that they wish to end their own life but cannot do so without assistance. Medical staff and loved ones aiding anyone under such circumstances should not be prosecuted providing clear (and independently witnessed) consent has been given.

tmtmtmtm

@tmtmtmtm - almost 6 years ago

The explanation here is at odds somewhat with the policy, as it's already the case that no-one may be left stateless, and all those stripped of their citizenship in recent years were dual-nationals. There have been several cases where the government attempted to do so, but were overturned on that basis. http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/02/26/medieval-exile-the-21-britons-stripped-of-their-citizenship/

PaulJRobinson

@PaulJRobinson - almost 6 years ago

Given recent briefings from Downing Street, I believe it's important to state our opposition to any such suggestions of changing the law.

tmtmtmtm

@tmtmtmtm - almost 6 years ago

I certainly don't object to making such a statement, though I think it should be decoupled from the terrorism issue into a simple statement of of opposition to leaving anyone stateless for any reason.

PaulJRobinson

@PaulJRobinson - almost 6 years ago

@tmtmtmtm yes that's an extremely valid point. Happy to revise the proposal on that basis.

@PaulJRobinson edited manifesto/crime.md - almost 6 years ago

We are opposed to the death penalty for all crimes, and would vote against any attempt to reintroduce it.

Removal of British Citizenship for Criminal Acts

We are opposed to the removal of British citizenship as a sentence for committing criminal offences, which may leave individuals stateless. We also reject the suggestion of denying entry into the UK for British citizens suspected of committing offences abroad without having undergone due criminal proceedings. Where reasonable suspicion of such a criminal act occurs it should be investigated for possible prosecution within the criminal justice system.

Right to Die

Ensure euthanasia is permissible and available for those with conditions causing the individual such pain that they wish to end their own life but cannot do so without assistance. Medical staff and loved ones aiding anyone under such circumstances should not be prosecuted providing clear (and independently witnessed) consent has been given.

philipjohn

@philipjohn - almost 6 years ago

The Government has backed down from that because they've realised (as they had been told before) that it contravenes 'international law' (if anyone has figured out what that is yet). So I think we could lose the "stateless" bit because that's not going to happen.

We should definitely declare we're against stripping anyone of citizenship, and reaffirm the need for due process. I'd also suggest adding an explicit rejection of the idea of considering anyone visiting a foreign state to be "guilty until proven innocent" just to be clear that's it's abhorrent to even think of it.

PaulJRobinson

@PaulJRobinson - almost 6 years ago

@philipjohn I think all of those policy proposals are abhorrent, and whilst I hope you're right that the stateless proposal definitely won't happen, I think it's important to state quite explicitly that we are opposed to all those ideas that have recently been floated: refusal of entry without due process; removal of citizenship etc etc. You never know when the next idiot will try to revive one of those policies. I'd rather keep all of them in and maintain our explicit opposition.

philipjohn

@philipjohn - almost 6 years ago

You're right - no harm in being explicit! 👍

Floppy

@Floppy - almost 6 years ago

Forgot to vote. 👍